NObama Care?

[JakRussll]

Help may be on the way.

Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Mon, January 31, 2011 -- 3:25 PM ET
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Federal Judge Rules Health Care Law Violates Constitution

A federal judge in Pensacola, Fla., ruled that the entire
health care overhaul enacted last year was void because one
provision, requiring nearly all Americans to obtain health
insurance, was unconstitutional.

A previous decision in a Virginia case found that the mandate
provision was unconstitutional, but did not say that it
necessarily affected the whole law's validity. In two other
cases tried so far, the law passed muster.

As in the Virginia case, the judge in Pensacola stayed his
decision pending an appeal, which could take more than a year
to decide, so the law remains in effect for now.

[lmam88]

Help may be on the way.

Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Mon, January 31, 2011 -- 3:25 PM ET
-----

Federal Judge Rules Health Care Law Violates Constitution

A federal judge in Pensacola, Fla., ruled that the entire
health care overhaul enacted last year was void because one
provision, requiring nearly all Americans to obtain health
insurance, was unconstitutional.

A previous decision in a Virginia case found that the mandate
provision was unconstitutional, but did not say that it
necessarily affected the whole law's validity. In two other
cases tried so far, the law passed muster.

As in the Virginia case, the judge in Pensacola stayed his
decision pending an appeal, which could take more than a year
to decide, so the law remains in effect for now.


Certainly doesn't help those of us whose insurance premiums just doubled and all benefits went down! From what the news has been saying about the State Budget crisis they may be going up again so we can help balance the budget! What a crock:mad:

[KINGCHIP]

Mine went up about 3%. That's less than any of the last ten years with the same exact policy, which has gone up 350%.

[Nomos]

Mine went up about 3%. That's less than any of the last ten years with the same exact policy, which has gone up 350%.

You were lucky. Your 3% experience is the first I've heard under about 25%. I'm guessing they gouged you so much in the last several years that they felt sorry for you. :)

[Caretaker]

Simple solution to the Obama doesnt care bill. Just make yourself a National of the state you reside in and quit worrying about What DC does..They aint gonna do didly squat for anyone but them and their cronies. Its time for Texas secession again.

[carvet44]

So, is it constitutional that we have to have car insurance? Doesn't the same rule apply? One insurance company is in charge of that industry, why can't another? Can we sue Perry and our atty gen for forcing us to carry car insurance? What's the diff?

[countryboy]

So, is it constitutional that we have to have car insurance? Doesn't the same rule apply? One insurance company is in charge of that industry, why can't another? Can we sue Perry and our atty gen for forcing us to carry car insurance? What's the diff?

While I PREFER to have car insurance and believe it is only a financially smart thing to have it. IMO it IS unconstitutional.. EACH state should make its own decision on issues such as this not DC.. Dems and Repubs need to get it out of there heads that This country is not a ONE size fits all nation.DC needs to flat shut down and All 50 states need to be Independent. United we will fall,Divided we have a chance.

[tarheel]

While I PREFER to have car insurance and believe it is only a financially smart thing to have it. IMO it IS unconstitutional.. EACH state should make its own decision on issues such as this not DC.. Dems and Repubs need to get it out of there heads that This country is not a ONE size fits all nation.DC needs to flat shut down and All 50 states need to be Independent. United we will fall,Divided we have a chance.

What makes you think the insurance requirement is federal and not state?

http://www.tdi.state.tx.us/auto/frvp.html

[tarheel]

So, is it constitutional that we have to have car insurance? Doesn't the same rule apply? One insurance company is in charge of that industry, why can't another? Can we sue Perry and our atty gen for forcing us to carry car insurance? What's the diff?

It is the State of Texas, not the Federal government, that mandates auto-insurance purchase.

Owning a car is optional, and is deemed a "privilege" rather than a "right" by the government. So, imposing requirements on that privilege is not outrageous. However, the idea that you must carry health-insurance simply because you are alive is. I know plenty of people who make the very rational and smart decision not to carry health insurance because they have better use for their money.

You only need auto insurance to drive on public roads, and that is to show financial responsibility to others that you might injure, or their property.

Sure, you can sue Governor Perry. Go get your lawyer and have at it.

[countryboy]

What makes you think the insurance requirement is federal and not state?

http://www.tdi.state.tx.us/auto/frvp.html

I do not believe it is a federal issue.. Maybe I should have worded that sentence as "Would BE" Or Could Be instead of IS.We all know the constitution is subject to ones interpretation.. My point was that each state should make its own decisions and ones that are best suite for those in that state.DC should not be involved on most matters IMO.

[tarheel]

I do not believe it is a federal issue.. Maybe I should have worded that sentence as "Would BE" Or Could Be instead of IS.We all know the constitution is subject to ones interpretation.. My point was that each state should make its own decisions and ones that are best suite for those in that state.DC should not be involved on most matters IMO.

Countryboy, we actually agree with each other on the main point, that most issues should be handled by the individual states, or by the people themselves. The Federal Government should do only those things specifically enumerated to it in the Constitution. Forcing people to buy health insurance is not one of them, that's for sure.

However, the Constitution is not subject "one's interpretation." We have courts for that. Each state already does make its own decisions on automobile insurance.

One more thing, the federal government's intrusion into health care is not about our health at all, it is about power. It is about increasing the power and control of the federal government in all parts of our lives. And that is disgusting.

[tarheel]

Consider this ...
Paradoxical Thought of the Day....

"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens."

Ben Stein

[countryboy]

Consider this ...
Paradoxical Thought of the Day....

"Fathom the odd hypocrisy that the government wants every citizen to prove they are insured, but people don't have to prove they are citizens."

Ben Stein


Consider this thought on any day..

Fathom knowing that the US will give its full support to the Sudan in its quest and overwhelming vote towards Secession but if a State were to Try the same they would fight tooth and nail to stop it.. Now that is Hypocrasy.

[countryboy]

Countryboy, we actually agree with each other on the main point, that most issues should be handled by the individual states, or by the people themselves. The Federal Government should do only those things specifically enumerated to it in the Constitution. Forcing people to buy health insurance is not one of them, that's for sure.

However, the Constitution is not subject "one's interpretation." We have courts for that. Each state already does make its own decisions on automobile insurance.

One more thing, the federal government's intrusion into health care is not about our health at all, it is about power. It is about increasing the power and control of the federal government in all parts of our lives. And that is disgusting.


What i mean by ones interpretation is this.Ask say 100 people to tell you what it means.ya probably will get alot of different interpretations.. Even the courts probably wont agree on any one part.. Its like the part WE THE PEOPLE.. I,ve heard several different answers for that part alone.Two were different but both made sense.

I think in this area of Texas some might say that it contains Ambigous Language.

You are right though Its all about Power in our Lives. Unfortunately Texas has its own version of doing the same thing.