Restaurant Ideas for Kingsland

[organicfoodlover]

Okay I posted the question over in the general Dining forum but I thought maybe some Kingsland residents may visit this area instead. I wondered if you had your dream, what type of restaurant would you like to see open in Kingsland? I've spoken to many people and they all seem to want some more choices that are not fast food. I figure if enough people speak out about what they want maybe someone will make it so. :)

[NightScenes]

Unfortunately, until Kingsland incorporates I don't think we're going to see a whole lot of changes. Since there are no building codes (just drive down 1431 and look at the buildings) it just won't suit a "nice" restaurant. Right now we have the Junction House as our "descent" place to eat and I'm thinking that's pretty much going to be it for a while. Until the powers that be get their heads out of the sand and make some changes in Kingsland, we'll just have to drive a whopping 15 minutes to Marble Falls.

[Caretaker]

Unfortunately, until Kingsland incorporates I don't think we're going to see a whole lot of changes. Since there are no building codes (just drive down 1431 and look at the buildings) it just won't suit a "nice" restaurant. Right now we have the Junction House as our "descent" place to eat and I'm thinking that's pretty much going to be it for a while. Until the powers that be get their heads out of the sand and make some changes in Kingsland, we'll just have to drive a whopping 15 minutes to Marble Falls.

Maybe The powers that BE like Kingsland the way it is.. Why is it folks leave one area that has to much gov control and move to an area that has less gov control but then want to change it to be just like what they left?? Maybe you should have moved to MFs

[Frank_Reilly]

And if Granite Shoals voters approve the sewer system in May, some of those restaurants may locate in Granite Shoals so that Kingsland and Marble Falls residents only have to travel 6 miles for food variety. ;-)

[NightScenes]

I've lived here for over 25 years Caretaker but I'm also someone who understands that you can only live in the stone ages for so long. When you get old you want services and those things are NOT free. You can't depend on the county to pay for everything. Businesses also want to be able to depend on local services, not county services that continue to become stretched to the limits.

By the way, I moved here from Austin and at the time, Marble Falls was not much bigger than Kingsalnd is now.

You're right Frank, Granite Shoals is now making the moves to create a nice little town instead of looking like a bad part of a nice town. Kingsland will end up watching it's property values plummet as the lack of any zoning allows for the building of dumps along the roadways.

[Bentley]

organicfoodlover I accidentally posted a reply to you on the wrong thread. Kingsland has recently had several business reopening, Im glad to see the growth. I would love to see a restaurant go in where Duckwalls is, something that serves vegetables would be a nice change. You asked about the best place for pizza, I highly recommend Moscias in Sunrise Beach,we like the chicken with gorgonzola cheese. Everything is made fresh.

[organicfoodlover]

Concerning Kingsland and it's growth or non-growth issues - I tried to contact the Chamber of Commerce regarding some questions and no one ever replied (e-mail). I will call them of course but I think if you're going to have an e-mail option, then someone should be responding to prospective members requests. I wonder if any of you are members and if the Chamber has any opinion on the future direction of Kinglsand?

[Bentley]

Kingsland seems to be growing, I guess because it is not incorporated it isn't as hard for builders to build these houses on the lake. I see all of these houses being built down River Oaks and crossing the bridge on 1431, there are hugh custom houses. Normally you would go to the building inspector to see the amount of permits being pulled in a town to know if it is growing. Does anyone know where you would find that information for Kingsland? Duckwalls is closing, but I was told that all Duckwalls are closing.

[Caretaker]

Kingsland seems to be growing, I guess because it is not incorporated it isn't as hard for builders to build these houses on the lake. I see all of these houses being built down River Oaks and crossing the bridge on 1431, there are hugh custom houses. Normally you would go to the building inspector to see the amount of permits being pulled in a town to know if it is growing. Does anyone know where you would find that information for Kingsland? Duckwalls is closing, but I was told that all Duckwalls are closing.


Thats right they are growing. And it is Due to them Not being incorporated.People and alot of buisnesses want less govermental control. These homes on the lake already have enough building issues with LCRA,county and state rules imposed on them. When places become citys all that happens is more codes,ordinances and govermental control.When that happens you will see just as many leaving an area as moving to it.

[Doublehorn]

The 2010 census put Kingsland's population at or around 6044. That is only second to Marble Falls in size for the counties of Llano & Burnet.

Kingsland is way too big to be unincorporated.

[organicfoodlover]

It does seem to be inevitable - but I worry that the group trying to do the incorporation may not understand the level of work involved in running a city government. Not for the faint of heart. And the liability issues are huge and ongoing. And expensive. Just hiring a police force is a huge endeavor - the police cars are $30,000 each and have to be replaced frequently. The police officers will need decent salaries and benefits (because otherwise you won't get police officers to stay employed - or they will be the wrong ones). The city management will need personal liability insurance. The city itself will need ongoing legal assistance and insurance. Then there is building overhead, insurance for that, utilities, staff and all the normal expenses of running an office.

Not to say it shouldn't happen but residents need to fully understand there will be no way to run an effective, successful city without tax generated revenue - and sales tax isn't going to cover the costs. It never does. Do the research and you'll see nearly every city seems to make the majority of it's revenue from property taxes, utilities, and then usually sales tax.

[Doublehorn]

I'm the first one to advocate "less government." I realize this is going against my core beliefs - but, unfortunately, this community has grown way too large to be governed by a county govt...and plus it discourages business development when there is no common sense zoning laws that a city govt should bring.....

[Caretaker]

I'm the first one to advocate "less government." I realize this is going against my core beliefs - but, unfortunately, this community has grown way too large to be governed by a county govt...and plus it discourages business development when there is no common sense zoning laws that a city govt should bring.....


Zoning laws do not necessarily mean buisnesses would locate in a city just because they have them. Houston Has no zoning laws. And buisnesses flocked there.

[Caretaker]

It does seem to be inevitable - but I worry that the group trying to do the incorporation may not understand the level of work involved in running a city government. Not for the faint of heart. And the liability issues are huge and ongoing. And expensive. Just hiring a police force is a huge endeavor - the police cars are $30,000 each and have to be replaced frequently. The police officers will need decent salaries and benefits (because otherwise you won't get police officers to stay employed - or they will be the wrong ones). The city management will need personal liability insurance. The city itself will need ongoing legal assistance and insurance. Then there is building overhead, insurance for that, utilities, staff and all the normal expenses of running an office.

Not to say it shouldn't happen but residents need to fully understand there will be no way to run an effective, successful city without tax generated revenue - and sales tax isn't going to cover the costs. It never does. Do the research and you'll see nearly every city seems to make the majority of it's revenue from property taxes, utilities, and then usually sales tax.

Also once they place a tax on the property owners they will always increase them or at least for 90% of the time they will increase. Plus if they start getting flack from the property owners about raising the rates they will just get the appraisor to raise the values.Its the back door approach to raising additional revenue.. Now as far as taxes for supporting the basics in most citys. It usually is on the backs on the property owners. But citys that have a good sales tax base can rely solely on sales taxes to support these things.Take MFs for instance. 70% is sales taxes and 30% comes from property taxes.
Another thing that gets bad once a city gets incorporated is all the additional BS ordinances against this or that and what ever the current council or staff come up with to impose on the residents. And we all Know the ultimate goal is nothing more then control..