Nov. 2010 Elections

[tonigking]

Can we discuss the candidates pro and con, like thinking , reasonable adults, without going overboard ?

Can we share information and opinions without extremism, leftism, rightism , libel/conservative, etc?:D

I am so tired of all the negativism and doomsday stuff. I am a realist and have no rose colored glasses but for once could we try and focus more on the positive side of the candidates?

Come on give it a try, you got nothing to lose.:D

Mikie tried it and he liked it...

[Caretaker]

Heres some positive for ya.

Kathie Glass for Governor. Libertarian candidate.Long shot I know but she has good ideas and a decent platform.Only draw back IMO is she is/was a lawyer.

Rick Donaldson for agriculture commissioner. Libertarian candidate..Believes in Eliminating property taxes and protecting Texas agriculture the ranchers and farmers...And will fight against any unconstitutional bills.

Kinky Freidman. Democrat running for Agriculture commissioner. Wants to also eliminate property taxes. He is now doing commercials with Ex Republican Gov Candidate Debra Medina.. (Yes a Rep and Dem getting along so dont faint.)

There is a green party candidate for Gov. Deb Shafto.. AT least if she wins and you dont like the outcome you can say you got the ??

If I can think of other goods or bads I will comment

[Wrangler]

I'm in a "funny" situation re: governor. I think Perry has been there tooooooo loooooong. He's like the "professional politicans" that he likes to bash (if they are from Washington DC!). He needs to look in the mirror, IMHO.

So, I may (not sure yet) vote AGAINST Perry but not FOR White. The rest of the governatorial candidates are merely there to distract voters from one or the other 2 main candidates, IMHO. They don't stand a "snowballs' chance in hades" of being anything but a distraction. They may be fine folks but reality is reality!

ps...everyone is "for" eliminating property taxes BUT what will replace it? I really think we need to revamp our entire tax structure. For example: de-emphasize property taxes, up the license plates fees (base them on value of vehicle like other states), reform education (there's got to be lots of "fat" in the ISD's! Kill "robin hood"). And, PLEASE don't even think of raising sales taxes! That's the most regressive tax especially on retirees with fixed incomes that has been invented!

[curious]

I'm in a "funny" situation re: governor. I think Perry has been there tooooooo loooooong. He's like the "professional politicans" that he likes to bash (if they are from Washington DC!). He needs to look in the mirror, IMHO.

So, I may (not sure yet) vote AGAINST Perry but not FOR White. The rest of the governatorial candidates are merely there to distract voters from one or the other 2 main candidates, IMHO. They don't stand a "snowballs' chance in hades" of being anything but a distraction. They may be fine folks but reality is reality!

I agree Perry has been there too long, BUT I refuse to vote for White. The guy lost $9M in 6 months!? I just don't trust him. And again, the others are just a distraction. Perry had been there too long, but, at this juncture, he's the lesser of the two evils.

[Nomos]

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ps...everyone is "for" eliminating property taxes BUT what will replace it? I really think we need to revamp our entire tax structure. ***
No, we don't need to revamp our tax structure in Texas or nationally.
We just need to downsize government, get government out of our hair except in the most essential things that only a central government can accomplish (and that's a short list), and cut spending by about 1/3.

The property tax method is really not a bad method, it's just that it has had to be increased to fund excessive spending.

[countryboy]

I agree Perry has been there too long, BUT I refuse to vote for White. The guy lost $9M in 6 months!? I just don't trust him. And again, the others are just a distraction. Perry had been there too long, but, at this juncture, he's the lesser of the two evils.


I dont trust White either. And I will not vote for Him or Perry.. As far as voting for the lesser of Two Evils crapola. If folks would quit using that cop out and vote for Who they really want We might just see real good people in office.The two headed party snake will always win as long as people dont vote for another alternative.

[countryboy]

No, we don't need to revamp our tax structure in Texas or nationally.
We just need to downsize government, get government out of our hair except in the most essential things that only a central government can accomplish (and that's a short list), and cut spending by about 1/3.

The property tax method is really not a bad method, it's just that it has had to be increased to fund excessive spending.


I agree with downsizing goverment.Its gotten way to big and out of control.

But property Taxes have to go. As long as you are Renting your property(AND YES It is Renting) you dont ever own it.And as long as we have property taxes. They will continue to go up because those in charge will always use that to fund their wish list projects. Leaders look at property taxes as nothing but OPM.To do with it what THEY want. We need only a sales tax.

[mdarling]

We need to read Propositions 2 and 3 very carefully. The way I read them, the state is trying to institute a STATE property tax. Any comments that might clarify these two propositions?

[Wrangler]

We need to read Propositions 2 and 3 very carefully. The way I read them, the state is trying to institute a STATE property tax. Any comments that might clarify these two propositions?

You are talking about the Propositions for 2009. I don't think there are any propositions for Nov ballot for 2010. At least, I haven't heard about them yet.

BTW, both those passed and NO, they didn't authorize a STATE property tax.

Texas Constitution prohibits a state property tax. In effect, however, we do have a state property tax but it works this way - the county/school district collects the taxes and forwards them to the state (Robin Hood). Its just that you don't get a tax bill from the state, it comes from the county/school district. But, you still pay and pay and pay and pay.

[Peaches]

I agree Perry has been there too long, BUT I refuse to vote for White. The guy lost $9M in 6 months!? I just don't trust him. And again, the others are just a distraction. Perry had been there too long, but, at this juncture, he's the lesser of the two evils.

I agree with you.

Voting for those Libertarians will only help White get elected.

And, there is not a Democrat on the planet that'll ever get my vote again.

[Peaches]

You are talking about the Propositions for 2009. I don't think there are any propositions for Nov ballot for 2010. At least, I haven't heard about them yet.

BTW, both those passed and NO, they didn't authorize a STATE property tax.

Texas Constitution prohibits a state property tax. In effect, however, we do have a state property tax but it works this way - the county/school district collects the taxes and forwards them to the state (Robin Hood). Its just that you don't get a tax bill from the state, it comes from the county/school district. But, you still pay and pay and pay and pay.

Most property rich school districts don't send the Robin Hood tax money to the State. They get a "discount" if the money goes directly to school districts chosen by the property rich district's school board. What ticks me off more than anything is the fact that property poor school districts aren't always "maxed-out" on their property tax rates, while property rich districts usually are.

You'd think the answer would be for the property rich districts to simply lower their tax rates to the point that they are no longer collecting more money in taxes than they are allowed to keep for their districts.

[Peaches]

... And, PLEASE don't even think of raising sales taxes! That's the most regressive tax especially on retirees with fixed incomes that has been invented!


Here's the thing about sales tax...everybody pays sales tax in proportion to the amount of non-food items they buy...INCLUDING visitors to our state. Even illegals will pay sales tax if they buy taxable items. Less wealthy people spend less on non-food goods, while weathier people buy more.

[grumpy]

It boils down to one fact. A vote for White is tantamount to a vote for Obama. Enough said!

[Wrangler]

It boils down to one fact. A vote for White is tantamount to a vote for Obama. Enough said!

I respectfully disagree (and I have ZERO affinity for "O").

The Governor of the state of Texas is extremely limited in his/her powers by the Texas Constitution. The Lt Governor is the MOST POWERFUL person in state government, IMHO. The LtGov controls the legislature and no law ever gets passed w/o his/her approval. The Gov is largely a figurehead with power to (1) appoint members to commissions and (2) call out the National Guard. The Gov cannot (1) control DPS, (2) introduce legislation, (3) spend money w/o legislature approval.

Other states give their Gov's some "real" powers. Texas doesn't. Its as close as possible to being a "figurehead" position.

I DO AGREE with you that a vote for any Democratic US Senator or US Representative candidate IS a vote "for" O. That's because Dem's on a national level (east & west coast liberal dominated) will force any "blue dog" Dem to do their bidding or face no being appointed to certain powerful Senate or Congressional committees, etc. But, for Gov of Texas, its really a mostly "figurehead" job!

[Wrangler]

Here's the thing about sales tax...everybody pays sales tax in proportion to the amount of non-food items they buy...INCLUDING visitors to our state. Even illegals will pay sales tax if they buy taxable items. Less wealthy people spend less on non-food goods, while weathier people buy more.

Hi, Peaches!

I agree that others will pay sales taxes also. But, my opposition is to INCREASING (not abolishing) the sales taxes. Its a very regressive tax!

NOTE: Wealthy people (as well as more knowledageable people) also shop online and avoid sales taxes on big ticket items!

[Wrangler]

Most property rich school districts don't send the Robin Hood tax money to the State. They get a "discount" if the money goes directly to school districts chosen by the property rich district's school board. ....

Technically, you are correct. However, its done that way because the state is holding a "tax gun" to their "head" and that method is simply more efficient.

[countryboy]

I'm in a "funny" situation re: governor. I think Perry has been there tooooooo loooooong. He's like the "professional politicans" that he likes to bash (if they are from Washington DC!). He needs to look in the mirror, IMHO.

So, I may (not sure yet) vote AGAINST Perry but not FOR White. The rest of the governatorial candidates are merely there to distract voters from one or the other 2 main candidates, IMHO. They don't stand a "snowballs' chance in hades" of being anything but a distraction. They may be fine folks but reality is reality!

ps...everyone is "for" eliminating property taxes BUT what will replace it? I really think we need to revamp our entire tax structure. For example: de-emphasize property taxes, up the license plates fees (base them on value of vehicle like other states), reform education (there's got to be lots of "fat" in the ISD's! Kill "robin hood"). And, PLEASE don't even think of raising sales taxes! That's the most regressive tax especially on retirees with fixed incomes that has been invented!


Teaparty candidates could have been thought of as just a distraction but some won their primarys.

If people would vote based solely on the individual and NOT the party or The Odds then Texans might get someone who actually Represents Texans..

Thats partly Why we have career politicians.Its Because of the Reality of peoples thinking and only voting like its a horse race..

[grumpy]

Wrangler you are correct in saying the Texas governor has limited powers. However he does make appointments, like College & University Regents, judges, and others. It is just better not to let the Obama supporters get a foothold.

[tonigking]

MARK YOUR CALENDAR! VOTING DAY NOVEMBER 2.

Here's a little goodnatured humor , but my sentiments exactly !:laughing::laughing::laughing:

(I am not plagerizing I just don't know who wrote it)

Twas the night before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!


I, in my bathrobe
With a dog in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political clap-trap.


When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys.


They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the others
Who had not worked a day!


He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink.


He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!


'On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi'
He screamed at the pairs!


They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn't stand up and fight!


So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!

[lmam88]

MARK YOUR CALENDAR! VOTING DAY NOVEMBER 2.

Here's a little goodnatured humor , but my sentiments exactly !:laughing::laughing::laughing:

(I am not plagerizing I just don't know who wrote it)

Twas the night before elections
And all through the town
Tempers were flaring
Emotions all up and down!


I, in my bathrobe
With a dog in my lap
Had cut off the TV
Tired of political clap-trap.


When all of a sudden
There arose such a noise
I peered out of my window
Saw Obama and his boys.


They had come for my wallet
They wanted my pay
To give to the others
Who had not worked a day!


He snatched up my money
And quick as a wink
Jumped back on his bandwagon
As I gagged from the stink.


He then rallied his henchmen
Who were pulling his cart
I could tell they were out
To tear my country apart!


'On Fannie, on Freddie,
On Biden and Ayers!
On Acorn, On Pelosi'
He screamed at the pairs!


They took off for his cause
And as he flew out of sight
I heard him laugh at the nation
Who wouldn't stand up and fight!


So I leave you to think
On this one final note-
IF YOU DONT WANT SOCIALISM
GET OUT AND VOTE!!!!

I understand you are trying to lighten the mood but I think it would be very wise to add first names to those peoples names mentioned. You never know who may share the same last name and have nothing to do with the individual that is being referred to!
Thanks!

[curious]

I understand you are trying to lighten the mood but I think it would be very wise to add first names to those peoples names mentioned. You never know who may share the same last name and have nothing to do with the individual that is being referred to!
Thanks!

Lighten up, yourself. EVERYBODY knows who the names refer to. And I agree, wholeheartedly with the sonnet, if you will. :popcorn:

[tonigking]

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
UNKNOWN AUTHOR

[JakRussll]

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln
Abraham Lincoln said this? You sure?

[AllyMay]

You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln
http://www.snopes.com/quotes/lincoln/prosperity.asp

[tonigking]

It matters far less who wrote it than the wisdom contained therein...

I have amended to "unknown" , happy now?:rolleyes:

PS; Haven't you heard that Snopes is not always correct?

[grumpy]

If there had been any doubt in my mind about the governor's race, it was settled this morning. As expected, the Austin Un-American Statesman endorsed Bill White for governor. That does it. If I am not sure on any election, I just vote against the one the Austin paper supports.

[tarheel]

Grumpy, amen to that.

I don't know what else we can expect though from most newspapers and magazines. Universities are hotbeds of liberalism and schools of journalism are even more so. The thing that amazes me is that so many young people manage to figure out what is right and makes sense even after being totally indoctrinated by our lefty K-12 and college educational system. (K-12 less so than college level, but the NEA has great influence)

[curious]

And Congress is voting themselves a raise this year. . . .

Government Expected to Nix Cost-of-Living Increase for Social Security Again


Published October 10, 2010
Associated Press


WASHINGTON -- As if voters don't have enough to be angry about this election year, the Social Security Administration [/URL]is expected to announce this week that more than 58 million [URL="http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/social-security.htm"]Social Security (http://www.thehighlandlakes.com/#) recipients will go through another year without an increase in their monthly benefits.
It would mark only the second year without an increase since automatic adjustments for inflation were adopted in 1975. The first year was this year.

Thank you, Obama, Pelosi and Reid!

[grumpy]

Tarheel, You are correct with one footnote: Texas Tech and Texas A & M are much more conservative than the rest. Of course UT has always been a hotbed of liberalism.

[tarheel]

I certainly agree about Tech and A&M. I wish my youngest daughter had gone to Tech. She survived a very liberal university with conservative principles intact, but I was worried. In one of her classes, she had to analyze the writings of a Marxist feminist, and it was very clear that the professor did not want anything but fawning prose about the subject. I told my daughter that she just has to give the professor what she wants and get past it. Getting into an argument would have gotten her a D or an F.

[curious]

I certainly agree about Tech and A&M. I wish my youngest daughter had gone to Tech. She survived a very liberal university with conservative principles intact, but I was worried. In one of her classes, she had to analyze the writings of a Marxist feminist, and it was very clear that the professor did not want anything but fawning prose about the subject. I told my daughter that she just has to give the professor what she wants and get past it. Getting into an argument would have gotten her a D or an F.

So very true! Being a leftist liberal is a prerequisite for most universities. It turns my stomach, the way they skew their teachings to fit their agenda. :mad:

[curious]

If there had been any doubt in my mind about the governor's race, it was settled this morning. As expected, the Austin Un-American Statesman endorsed Bill White for governor. That does it. If I am not sure on any election, I just vote against the one the Austin paper supports.

DITTO, to the nth degree. Speaking of leftist agendas. . . .

[Caretaker]

If there had been any doubt in my mind about the governor's race, it was settled this morning. As expected, the Austin Un-American Statesman endorsed Bill White for governor. That does it. If I am not sure on any election, I just vote against the one the Austin paper supports.


They also endorsed incumbents Lloyd Doggett, Lamar Smith,Michael McCaul,and John Carter.

Doggetts opponent is (R)Donna campbell. She spoke at the MFs Teaparty rally in 09.Shes got my vote.

McCauls opponent is (D) Ted Ankrum.. I dont like either of them.Write in Time.

Lamar Smiths opponent is (D) Lainey Melnick.. Looks like a write in vote is in order.

Carter is up against (L) Bill Oliver. The latter is my pick.

[curious]

DITTO, again, my friend.

[curious]

Just 2 more weeks and we can "Stop The Bleeding" and start saving what is left of our country.

[luxgolfer]

Early voting starts today and there's one very important position up for grabs in Burnet County: DISTRICT CLERK.

One candidate is employed in the District Clerk's Office. She's been there several years and was the #2 person in charge when the office received a lot of criticism for the way customers were treated. This candidate has never revealed what her qualifications are, or what she would do to improve the office should she be elected. Instead, she's focusing on her political affiliation. She's spent a tremendous amount of money on her campaign, and she's filed some required financial reports that are required by the State of Texas...which makes one question her competency. She's also married to a high-ranking BSCO deputy, which could present an ethics question--District Clerk with insider information from the Sheriff's Department.

The other candidate holds a Master of Business Administration degree, which she earned by working part time. She's been a successful business woman for 25 years; she and her husband own a thriving computer products company that draws customers from around the country. She's supervised employees and she knows how to treat customers. She's a fiscal conservative and she's very clearly articulated what she can do to make the District Clerk's Office a much more responsive, efficient, customer-oriented operation while casting political affiliations aside.

I urge all voters to closely and carefully read what these two opponents have said, and what they can bring to the table if elected. Then cast your political affiliation aside and vote for the best qualified candidate.

[Caretaker]

Early voting starts today and there's one very important position up for grabs in Burnet County: DISTRICT CLERK.

One candidate is employed in the District Clerk's Office. She's been there several years and was the #2 person in charge when the office received a lot of criticism for the way customers were treated. This candidate has never revealed what her qualifications are, or what she would do to improve the office should she be elected. Instead, she's focusing on her political affiliation. She's spent a tremendous amount of money on her campaign, and she's filed some required financial reports that are required by the State of Texas...which makes one question her competency. She's also married to a high-ranking BSCO deputy, which could present an ethics question--District Clerk with insider information from the Sheriff's Department.

The other candidate holds a Master of Business Administration degree, which she earned by working part time. She's been a successful business woman for 25 years; she and her husband own a thriving computer products company that draws customers from around the country. She's supervised employees and she knows how to treat customers. She's a fiscal conservative and she's very clearly articulated what she can do to make the District Clerk's Office a much more responsive, efficient, customer-oriented operation while casting political affiliations aside.

I urge all voters to closely and carefully read what these two opponents have said, and what they can bring to the table if elected. Then cast your political affiliation aside and vote for the best qualified candidate.


Why is that such an Important election. IMO County Clerk= paper shuffler.

I think it could be a conflict of interest if the 1st candidate you mentioned is indeed married to a BCSO member. Or is it?? Also if shes been there for several years then that should count as her qualifications for the job.Should it not?

But I also have to wonder about the 2nd candidate you mention. 25 years as a successful buisness women.If shes so successful then why would she want to be County Clerk??Especially if they have a Thriving buisness. She would,nt be your candidate of choice now would she??

Now I do agree that folks should forget about party affilliations since Reps/Dems are all the same. Vote only for the person.

[tonigking]

One of the most important things I have read here is "write in time". How many times as a conservative
independent have I voted for the "lesser of two evils" ?
No more. I will always write in a candidate that I was able to support in the primaries or someone I trust if I don't like the ballot choices.
I am assured that my vote will at least be counted , which is far better than not voting at all.
Now having said that; how does one "write in" on an electronic voting machine?

[Caretaker]

One of the most important things I have read here is "write in time". How many times as a conservative
independent have I voted for the "lesser of two evils" ?
No more. I will always write in a candidate that I was able to support in the primaries or someone I trust if I don't like the ballot choices.
I am assured that my vote will at least be counted , which is far better than not voting at all.
Now having said that; how does one "write in" on an electronic voting machine?


I looked at the sample ballots this weekend. They show on the Govs section a spot for a write in candidate. It says to click that and then type in the name you want.. Unfortunately it does not show that on ALL the sections.So for the unopposed candidates you dont have a way to vote No confidence..I would ask the folks at the ballot locations on How to do write ins for all the sections.

[tamra30]

sales tax is the only solution,,,,that way everyone pays! the city taxes are out of hand, property, out of hand. that is the one thing that i do agree with over seas, their high taxes, but healthcare and everything is paid for and noone feels that they are paying more than the next. deffinately need a sales tax.........and the debate goes on

[tamra30]

you have to type it out. i did just that, did a write in.

[grumpy]

Luxgolfer, if she is really a fiscal conservative as you say, why would she align herself with the tax & spend liberal party? The way Burnet county is, that would be a severe handicap even if what you say is true.

[tarheel]

Well, I just voted today. I hope none of us take anything for granted and are sure to exercise our right to vote. We have to start putting this country back together.

The Democrats are calling an economy that lost 95,000 jobs last month "stable." We all know that is unacceptable. The unemployment rate has been above 9% for 17 consecutive months. The Democrats have had both houses of Congress for 4 years now, and the Presidency too for 2 years. That is more than enough of that.

Let's sic 'em.

[KINGCHIP]

I think I'll have time to go today. On the other hand, I don't like what I see about absentee and early voting ballots.


Grumpy, Hacksaw, what a treat to run into the both of you at the same time, and introduce you to each other.

[tarheel]

I think I'll have time to go today. On the other hand, I don't like what I see about absentee and early voting ballots.

Somehow, I don't understand. What do you not like about them?

[Hacksaw]

KingChip is good to see you and Grumpy. Hope they hit a gusher on your place. Gotta go now to vote. Hope for a change.

[KINGCHIP]

Somehow, I don't understand. What do you not like about them?

Reports of uncounted absentee and early ballots concern me. No biggie. I'll still vote early.

[tarheel]

Reports of uncounted absentee and early ballots concern me. No biggie. I'll still vote early.

Got it, although I think (hope?) that Llano and Burnet counties are a little better than Detroit or DC.

[tonigking]

[QUOTE=KINGCHIP;8555]I think I'll have time to go today. On the other hand, I don't like what I see about absentee and early voting ballots.


Kingchip, I am with you. I have always had some concerns about early voting. Not necessarily in this County but in one I lived previously.
It's too easy to manipulate those votes given they are not counted until the precinct reports are mostly in.

I guess I would like to here from the Burnet CC's office exactly how the counting is done.
Hopefully she will respond here so we can all decide to early vote or not.:confused:

[AllyMay]

[QUOTE=KINGCHIP;8555]I think I'll have time to go today. On the other hand, I don't like what I see about absentee and early voting ballots.


Kingchip, I am with you. I have always had some concerns about early voting. Not necessarily in this County but in one I lived previously.
It's too easy to manipulate those votes given they are not counted until the precinct reports are mostly in.

I guess I would like to here from the Burnet CC's office exactly how the counting is done.
Hopefully she will respond here so we can all decide to early vote or not.:confused:


Burnet County's CC is not over the elections in BC. Look on the county website they have an elections department. She would be the one to address your concerns.

[curious]

State & Local

Illegal Aliens Canvass for Votes in Wash. State


Published October 22, 2010
| Associated Press

Where's the Border Patrol when you need them? You can bet if the illegals were campaigning for Republicans, they would have been hauled off immediately!!!!!!!!!!

[curious]

True to form, today the Un-american Statesman chose to run an article on the local film industry on the front page (should have been in the State and Local section) and then they buried on page 5 ( a day late, I might add) the article on the illegals going door-to-door in Washington State, campaigning for democrats. We all know the Un-American Statesman is blatantly biased, but, "gimme a break"!

[tonigking]

Thanks AllyMay, Who is the bossof the election judges and workers? Who appoints them ?Whose around when the votes get counted?
I know I am showing my ignorance but I never had much occasion to be so very distrustful in the past.:secret:

[curious]

With just over a week to go until Election Day, several conservative Democrats have slightly distanced themselves from the political establishment and from President Obama himself - but one Democrat just took it to a whole new level.
Rep. Gene Taylor (D-Miss.), an 11-term incumbent facing a tough reelection campaign in southern Mississippi, says he won't support Nancy Pelosi (http://www.foxnews.com/topics/politics/nancy-pelosi.htm#r_src=ramp) for another term as House Speaker and - yikes - didn't even for vote Obama in 2008.
According to The Hill (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/125645-democratic-congressman-says-he-voted-for-mccain-in-2008), Taylor told a reporter from the Sun Herald of South Mississippi, "I did not vote for Obama. I voted for McCain."


Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/10/25/mississippi-democrat-admits-he-didnt-vote-obama#ixzz13TiaIdzl

[KINGCHIP]

Well that's what he said.....