Glenn Beck...

[tonigking]

Phenomenon or a Farce?

What say you?:popcorn:

[dgibson]

absolute phenomenon!

[stephen]

Shill

[BubbasGeek]

"An idiot, dolt, or dullard is a mentally deficient person, or someone who acts in a self-defeating or significantly counterproductive way. More humorous synonyms of the term include addlehead, blockhead, bonehead, deadhead, dimwit, dodo, dope, dummy, dunderhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, numbskull, stupidhead, thickhead, and twit, among many others."

[Webmaster]

I enjoy listening to him on the radio. Never seen the TV show.

[KINGCHIP]

Libs won't debate him, only whine. I like him.

[Peaches]

I don't watch his show very often, but I have to say he has exposed some things within this administration that have proven true and shocking for me.

He made a comment one day that struck me as totally awesome - he said that the "Progressives" that control Washington today are not the true, America-loving Democrats that our grandparents and great-grandparents elected in the past. He said he believes the vast majority of Democratic voters ARE proud of our country - that they love it every bit as much as anyone ever could.

I think he's right. Maybe we lose sight of the fact that "crazy extremes" will choose one side or the other and claim to be a major part of "their side." We see this all the time with Christianity...for instance, this Westboro Baptist Church group. Those people are not Christians. They are the scum of the Earth, in my opinion. But, "non-belivers" will think, and try to make others think, of these Westboro nuts as "Christians."

I've said before that we, as a nation, can't lean too far to the left or the right. We have to find middle ground so that we can work together and preserve our freedom and our country.

I think fair-minded Democrats and Republicans CAN work together, and their mutual cooperation will help make this nation stronger, and keep it stronger. The Obama Administration is not "fair-minded." This administration has no concern for the freedom of the American people. They are
"Progressives" - and they have attached themselves to the Democratic Party.

Beck is, by the way, Mormon.

[tarheel]

Bubba, would you mind telling us which of his shows or what specifically he said that cause your opinion of him? You have actually watched a show of his, right?

[Peaches]

Tarheel, he copied and pasted that from the Wikipedia definition of "idiot." He's probably never seen or heard Glen Beck's show.

[KINGCHIP]

They are
"Progressives" - and they have attached themselves to the Democratic Party.



That would be known as a parasite.

[fellowtownsperson]

I'm of a different demonimation but I'm so sick of people picking on Mormons. Several years ago, my son joined the Mormon faith. I've been VERY impressed with the workings of his group. First of all, let me say that Mormons believe in the same Bible as we do, the St. James version of the Bible. They just add the Book of Mormon.

Saturday before this past Christmas, my son and his family were stranded 70 miles north of Cheyenne, WY, with a blown transmission. My son contacted the Mormon bishop in Cheyenne and he sent someone out to pick up wife and children. When they all got into Cheyenne, the bishop directed them to a motel (owned by a Mormon) and they stayed there FOR FREE for a WEEK AND A HALf a half while the vehicle was repaired. Not only that, the transmission was going to cost $3,000, which my school-teacher son didn't have. The Cheyenne bishop got in touch with my son's bishop in South Dakota and the Mormon chuch split the bill. My son paid nothing.

This is not the first time I've heard of Mormons helping Mormons, as well as fellow Christians.

I've seen the Baptist church help families (not to this extent). I've never heard of MY church helping this much in dire situations. I'm embarrased.

Therefore, if Glenn Beck is a Mormon, he's probably working for the best for all of us. What's wrong with that?

Have a blessed Easter.

[Peaches]

That would be known as a parasite.

Exactly! Chip, you nailed that one!

Fellowtownsperson - I agree with you about Mormons. They are hard-working, caring, giving people. You know what else amazes me about them? I think they are the most pro-active people in the world about adopting children.

And, guess what...the Mormon Church has its parasites too.

[tarheel]

Peaches, that was my point, of course. I doubt that Bubba would watch Fox News even if it were the only channel available. I believe in exposure to many viewpoints. We get tons of left wing stuff from the liberal media, such as The New York Times. Note that the Times columnists are widely syndicated and appear in liberal newspapers all over the country. So, we get the liberal/progressive viewpoint coming out the kazoo. However, unless you watch Fox News, you aren't getting a dose of the opposite viewpoint. You can not make educated decisions without opposing viewpoints.

Add in to the mix the extreme left wing slant of the movie industry. Throw in the same from the entire educational establishment, from K-12 to colleges. It is almost amazing when any kid comes out of our propaganda system with even a minimal exposure to conservative viewpoints.

Here is a product of our education system speaking in Congress.

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[bobbypuccio]

Well, for one his show isn't news, it's called ENTERTAINMENT!!!!! ummm, peaches you mention the extreme left wing, you are aware that the right has an extreme position as well?

[Peaches]

Bobby, did you read my post? I said we have extremist on both sides.

Nobody said Glen Beck's show is news. There are a number of Opinion shows on Fox, as well as MSNBC, CNN, and all the other Progressive-leaning "news" channels.

That said, what exactly has Beck said that makes you angry? It's a fair question...and you should be able to respond unless you're only listening to the "news" reports from those Media outlets that have so much interest in pushing the Progressive agenda - you know...the Democrats' parasites.

[Peaches]

Tarheel,

I was born in Georgia...I can't tell you how glad I am that I got to Texas ASAP after seeing that nit-wit talk about Guam tipping over from the weight of the Marines...

[tarheel]

Well, for one his show isn't news, it's called ENTERTAINMENT!!!!! ummm, peaches you mention the extreme left wing, you are aware that the right has an extreme position as well?

Beck's shows are typically backed up by facts and verifiable data. You'll be hard pressed to name something from his programs that is not.

Let's talk about extremes. How many thousands of times have you heard the term "Religious Right?" Plenty. Now, how many times have you heard the term "atheistic left?" None. I have never heard it, but I guarantee there is a huge group of atheistic communist leaners on the left. You just won't hear it from the left wing establishment media. The bias of the mainstream media is simply off the charts.

[tarheel]

Tarheel,

I was born in Georgia...I can't tell you how glad I am that I got to Texas ASAP after seeing that nit-wit talk about Guam tipping over from the weight of the Marines...

Amen. It is so ridiculous that we couldn't make this stuff up if we tried.

Do we have to ask how this brainiac voted on the socialized medicine bill?

[bobbypuccio]

Let's see, he was a substance abuser ( recovering alcoholic and drug abuser), dropped out of college after 1st semester, diagnosed with Attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, Here's some of his background, copied from webpage peaches, so need to mention that: This is where your getting your information from:
Beck’s mentor and manager at the station was a former Marine and surfing Mormon named Jim Sumpter. “I never had a doubt that Glenn was headed for huge things,” Sumpter told me on the phone from his radio studio in Florida, “but I didn’t see any indication of an interest in politics. I never for a moment dreamt that Glenn was, based on his lifestyle choices, a political conservative. If you asked me if Glenn would have ever been on the cover of Time magazine I would have asked you what you were smoking.”
Beck was channeling the decade of excess, doing cocaine, driving a DeLorean, and cultivating a collection of thin ties. He played the fool but did not suffer fools. “When we were in Texas, Glenn hated Texans, hated ’em,” Sumpter said. “Now he talks about how he just loves the people in Texas. He used to make fun of them—their belt buckles, the chunky jewelry, I mean the whole deal. And he just hated Mormons.”
It wasn’t just Mormons. Beck’s self-described mantra at the time was “I hate people.” Despite occasionally sharing the mic with a chimp named Zippy, despair was seeping in and Beck’s mood swings were alienating colleagues; one remembered him as “a sadist, the kind of guy who rips the wings off flies.” His competitive edge could certainly contain a cruel streak. When he faced off against a former friend in the Phoenix market, Beck called up the man’s wife on air after she had a miscarriage and mocked his friend-turned-rival, saying it was evidence that he couldn’t do anything right—he couldn’t even have a baby.7 (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/22/glenn_beck_two/print.html)
Beck’s own personal life was suffering. His first marriage was crumbling and a daughter was born with cerebral palsy. Amid drug use and manic behavior, Beck wrestled with suicidal fantasies, writing later, “There was a bridge abutment in Louisville, Kentucky, that had my name on it. … Every day I prayed for the strength to be able to drive my car at 70 mph into that bridge abutment. I’m only alive today because (a) I’m too cowardly to kill myself ... and (b) I’m too stupid.”8 (http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-01-22/the-making-of-glenn-beck/5/)
By his late twenties, the onetime radio wunderkind had burned most professional bridges and found himself working at a radio station in New Haven, Connecticut, a comparative Siberia from previous postings. Divorced and with drug use and alcoholism spiraling out of control, Beck hit bottom. He went to his first AA meeting in 1994 and began a skeptic’s search for faith, starting with a self-taught great books seminar that included tomes from Hitler, Carl Sagan, and Pope John Paul II and culminating with his baptism into the Mormon Church.

[tarheel]

I hope you enjoyed your long rant. Nothing new here, he said this about himself. That was then, and this is now.

Now why don't you simply answer the question. What, from his show, have you found to be wrong? We understand you don't like the messenger, but how about you tell us specifically what part of his message you disagree with, and why.

[bobbypuccio]

Wow, tarheel you must be kidding me. "we understand you don't like the messenger" that's a good one, how about don't trust the messenger is more like it. I don't trust anyone who just rants and raves just to get publicity, he doesn't care about fact or fiction. You might as well goto the psych ward and get your information. He constantly uses race and race baiting, red scare tactics, Violent anti government rehetoric, Wild conspiracies, was happy we lost the bid to 2016 olympics, healthcare reform misinformation, do I need to go on? I thought I did answer your question, for a normal person the former post should be enough. Tarheel would you invest your money with someone who admitted all of that (previous post about glenn beck)? Would you trust your children with someone like that? Answer that Tarheel. He's an unstable person who uses hate and fear mongering to propel himself, and admits he's crazy and you have no problem taking information from him? Wow, Enough said.
About your Athiestic left comment, you want to know why you don't hear about them? Because they aren't killing people, not blowing up buildings, not marching or holding rallies, not starting wars, etc. etc..

[KINGCHIP]

Bobby, are you speaking of Beck or Obama. An eerie similarity wouldn't you say?

[tonigking]

I would trust Beck over the maniacal ranters on this forum who have obviously never had an original thought in their lives, plagiarize all their comments and take up space with their boorish comments and presence.:(

The fact that Glenn has overcome so much warrants respect not denigration.

He is a phenominal history teacher, backs up everything he says with facts; whether written, video or some other form of documentation.

I am thankful for his presence on Fox !

[lmam88]

:popcorn:

[bobbypuccio]

yes, chip just like obama, who graduated top of his class at harvard, Law Degree, isn't divorced, isn't unstable, hmmm, isn't an entertainer, isn't in AA & wasn't addicted to drugs, sounds like BUSH wouldn't you say Chip? A great history teacher, he doesn't have A DEGREE. Toniking, when i'm stating someones past I prefer to get that info from the web rather than just make it up. I got a warning for my last post that I can't understand why? Who did I insult other than Beck!!! Backup up everything with facts, that's a good one, I can't stop laughing. Again, he's an entertainer that stirs up stuff just to make MONEY.. Overcame what? He overcame what he put himself through?

[KINGCHIP]

Obama, admitted cocaine user, educated by scholarships dedicated exclusively to foreign students,(fraud, or not American, it has to be one or the other), is extremely unstable, and is quite the entertainer when spewing his rhetoric

[tarheel]

Another rant, puccio. But still no answer to the simple question. Why? Because you can't.

[Peaches]

Bobby, do you even know who John Avlon is? I mean, without doing a google search and copy/paste job....

[bobbypuccio]

Tarheel, again I thought I answered your question, I'm still waiting for your answers though. Peaches, yes I do know who John Avlon is. Tarheel I also don't prefer to eat my dinner out of a garbage can as well but if that's what some people like, Enjoy...!!!
Peaches, Yes I do know who he is.

[Peaches]

No, Bobby, you haven't answered the question. Nobody asked what John Avlon thinks of Glenn Beck. The question is can you point out something specific you've heard Glenn Beck say that makes you hate him? Answering that question requires something other than copy/paste from a web site.

Seriously, Bobby - are you just playing Devil's advocate here? You seem to be having a hard time finding words of your own to defend you position(s).

[bobbypuccio]

Yes, Peaches, I answered the question. You don't like the answer too bad. Do I hate him, I never said that, show me where I said that? I don't prefer to get my Information from an entertainer, without a degree of any sorts, period. what is so difficult about that? I'm glad you like him, that's great, good for you. I don't. Have you seen the video of him putting vicks rub under his eyes to cry? I don't like anyone like him, either it be him or michael moore. He was a music dj before he stumbled upon politics, and once again doesn't have a education to make him qualified to be a pundit.

[Peaches]

I don't prefer to get my Information from an entertainer, without a degree of any sorts, period. what is so difficult about that?


So, from whom DO you get your information, Bobby? What method do you use to verify the information you are given?

[bobbypuccio]

N.Y. Times, L.A. Times, The Guardian, Seattle Times, The Independent, Wall Street Journal. Again, I ask, would you let someone with his background watch your children and invest your money for you? Oh, I try not to listen to people who compare others to Hitler as well, He compares himself to ghandi and rosa parks, says fox news is like the jews during the holocaust. Do I really need to go on?

[KINGCHIP]

I for one would not let him watch my kids any more than I would Couric, Blitzer, etc.I don't go to NYC enough that it has ever posed a problem. That does not mean he is not a credible source of information.

[tarheel]

Yes, Peaches, I answered the question.

No, you did not. You rant and rave and then claim you answered something.

What, specifically, did you see on his show that you disagree with?

Going off on another rant without even addressing that simple question would just be pitiful. You asking if someone else wants him to watch their children is not an answer.

[Caretaker]

I feel froggy today so I will throw in my .02.

Beck stinks. MSM stinks.NYtimes stinks.. Doesnt matter which one you listen to. They are all Programmed to help you form an oppinion that slants in their direction.They want you to be on their side of the political ball field. Thats the name of the game..Its part of the Political divide or the Left/Right paradigm..

The smartest thing anyone can do is just stay away from the sheep pen..Best to stand in the NO Sheep Zone.Do i hear a Baaaaa Baaaaa. Nope No sheep here.God I hope Not cause if thats what I hear.then you can bet theres a long line waiting to be sheared.

[Peaches]

N.Y. Times, L.A. Times, The Guardian, Seattle Times, The Independent, Wall Street Journal. Again, I ask, would you let someone with his background watch your children and invest your money for you? Oh, I try not to listen to people who compare others to Hitler as well, He compares himself to ghandi and rosa parks, says fox news is like the jews during the holocaust. Do I really need to go on?

Since when did he go from being an "entertainer" to being a baby-sitting financial advisor? Would you let Wolfe Blitzer baby sit your kids and invest your money?

BTW...George W Bush was also compared to Hitler by his critics. Did you listen to those attacks? Did you defend him?

[tarheel]

I feel froggy today so I will throw in my .02. Beck stinks

I'll ask you the same question I asked puccio. What exactly has he said on his show that you disagree with?

The idea that we should not investigate or follow up on something, just because it was Beck who said it, is patently absurd.

[Caretaker]

I'll ask you the same question I asked puccio. What exactly has he said on his show that you disagree with?

The idea that we should not investigate or follow up on something, just because it was Beck who said it, is patently absurd.

Umm Lets see. It was BECK who attacked Debra Medina and smeared her campaign. He asked her a question and when she gave an answer He did not like he flat used it against her to try and discredit her. For Him to insinuate that the people do not have a Right to Question their Goverment shows excactly What hes all about...

[tarheel]

Umm Lets see. It was BECK who attacked Debra Medina and smeared her campaign. He asked her a question and when she gave an answer He did not like he flat used it against her to try and discredit her. For Him to insinuate that the people do not have a Right to Question their Goverment shows excactly What hes all about...

Here is that portion of that interview. She blew the answer, so you shoot the messenger for asking the question?

GLENN: Right. Here's then let me be more frank and ask you the question: Do you believe the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?

MEDINA: I don't, I don't have all of the evidence there, Glenn. So I don't I'm not in a place, I have not been out publicly questioning that. I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there. So I've not taken a position on that.

GLENN: I think the people of America might think that might be a yes.

MEDINA: Well

GLENN: Do you have advisors, do you have advisor

MEDINA: I'm not going to take a position.

GLENN: That's fine.

[Peaches]

Caretaker...

I'm not a big fan of Glenn Beck. I think he has brought some things to light that might otherwise stayed in the shadows - Van Jones being one of those "things". But, in all honesty, he's over-the-edge, and too far to the Right for my comfort. I would not vote for him if he ran for public office.

Having said that, I don't think Beck intended to insinuate she didn't have the right to question the government regarding 9/11. For me, Medina's response to the World Trade Center question was disturbing. Her response, and her response alone, caused me to question her "political sensitivity" toward the victims of 9/11 and toward those terrorists who committed those horrible mass murders. Her response gave me cause to think she might be reluctant to hold those terrorists responsibile for their acts.

I am glad Beck asked the question. Voters needed to know that she was not willing to "take a position" on a conspiracy theory regarding governmental involvement in the events of 9/11.

The thing about Beck and all "political media professionals" (lol! I can't believe I'm using those three words together!!!) is this: You have to take the information they offer and analyze it carefully. You can't just take what they say and run with it. Every political news reporter has his/her opinion, and one way or another, his/her opinion is going to affect the way that person reports.

Therefore, I feel there is no clear-cut answer to the question posed in this thread" Glenn Beck - Phenomenon or a Farce?

[Caretaker]

Here is that portion of that interview. She blew the answer, so you shoot the messenger for asking the question?

GLENN: Right. Here's then let me be more frank and ask you the question: Do you believe the government was any way involved with the bringing down of the World Trade Centers on 9/11?

MEDINA: I don't, I don't have all of the evidence there, Glenn. So I don't I'm not in a place, I have not been out publicly questioning that. I think some very good questions have been raised in that regard. There are some very good arguments, and I think the American people have not seen all of the evidence there. So I've not taken a position on that.

GLENN: I think the people of America might think that might be a yes.

MEDINA: Well

GLENN: Do you have advisors, do you have advisor

MEDINA: I'm not going to take a position.

GLENN: That's fine.



You can read that and intepret that How ever you want to.The Bottom line is Beck put it in everyones head that Medina was a conspiracy nut. His intent was to take her out of the Race because she was gaining momentum.Everyone with even a low eye q can read between the lines on that one.
And the damaging part was Not these few lines you put down but what happen after the Interview that did her in.Beck stating Well I think we can write her off.Perrys looking real good.

Like I said before.Its all part of the game.

If you want to be in the Sheep zone then thats up to you. But remember this.When you are in that zone you are only waiting to be sheared.

[Peaches]

Caretaker...

I never saw/heard the Glenn Beck interview. I heard reports about it later. I certainly never heard the comments you quoted following the interview (I'm sure he made them - no argument there). I made my decision on Media based on her own statement concerning 9/11.

[tarheel]

Peaches, good posts. You're on the mark. Caretaker, would it surprise you to learn that I voted for Medina? However, she flat out blew the answer to that question. And that's a period on that. It was a simple question and she tried to not take a position. That's her fault, and hers alone.

[bobbypuccio]

"peaches Since when did he go from being an "entertainer" to being a baby-sitting financial advisor? Would you let Wolfe Blitzer baby sit your kids and invest your money?

BTW...George W Bush was also compared to Hitler by his critics. Did you listen to those attacks? Did you defend him?"
what I was asking peaches is, if someone in your life was that unstable and with that history, would you trust them very much? Do I defend calling Georgie hitler, no, not at all, Hitler was among the most horrible in history but I wouldn't insult hitler that much by comparing him to Georgie.

[bobbypuccio]

And yes that was a joke so simmer down!!!

[Webmaster]

Tone down the rhetoric please. :smack:

[tarheel]

puccio, still have a question for you. What specifically have you seen on any of Beck's shows that you find disagree with? Oh, and please leave George Bush out of it, he has nothing to do with Beck's shows.

[bobbypuccio]

Tarheel, I'm glad you like Glenn Beck, that's great, I don't and will not. I don't like people who compare just about anyone to Hitler ( he's done that on his show)... Is that enough for you?

[Peaches]

Tarheel, I'm glad you like Glenn Beck, that's great, I don't and will not. I don't like people who compare just about anyone to Hitler ( he's done that on his show)... Is that enough for you?

What did Beck say on his show about the comparisons of Obama to Hitler, Bobby?

[tarheel]

Tarheel, I'm glad you like Glenn Beck, that's great, I don't and will not. I don't like people who compare just about anyone to Hitler ( he's done that on his show)... Is that enough for you?

No, that has nothing to do with it all. I didn't say I liked Beck anyway. I just asked you what, specifically, you have seen on his show that you don't like.