Headlines for The Regional Hospital

[Caretaker]

. If you have not heard by now folks. The New Regional Hospital may or may not happen after all..:( Get yourself a copy of the Picayune or Highlander tommorrow. Should be front page.May even hit Kvue.:cool:.This could be Big News for MFs.:popcorn:Could be devastating.. This city just cant stay out of the news now can it.:banghead:

[Reapp]

I don't know why you think it would be devastating, disappointing sure but hardly devastating. There is also nothing saying it may not happen, it just won't be happening on the Crossroads property.

[nosefornews]

You've heard the saying all hat no cattle, this developer was all plans no cash....

[countryboy]

Well heres the way I see it. Mfs annexed all the land from the old gun range all the way to 71/281. Almost if not more then 2400 acres.352 of that was in the LMFs subdivsion. The price tag for services in that area is stated as being 5.7 mil.Water/Sewage lines..And those folks dont even have to connect to the system. Then you have the money spent on lines that were to get the Hospital going.I,m sure that was a hefty cost.And those folks on both sides of the highway dont have to connect if they dont want to either.Though if they did it would be a win/win for them as buisnesses.. Then you have the developer who may or may not have any money to build their golf course community out there.They also were to have paid the money to build the water tower. Did it get paid for??. Then back to those water/sewage lines.MFs taxpayers footed that bill.. Now Yes they can build the hospital somewhere else but. If its not Done somewhere on the 2400 acres or so that was annexed then where will it get built. You can go across the highway at 71 or 281.But then they would have to annex more land.That takes time and more money to do..Not to mention the purchase of other land..

It is devastating and dissapointing at the same time.

The city knows a developer on 1431 that has commercial land just ready to do something with.. Why not just negotiate to have it built closer in town.. They could Deannex all that land on the southside and that money could be used for the land purchase. Problem solved.You,ve have a place for the Hospital.

[KINGCHIP]

Meanwhile, we foot the considerable bill for the utilities.

[Reapp]

It is devastating and dissapointing at the same time.

The city knows a developer on 1431 that has commercial land just ready to do something with.. Why not just negotiate to have it built closer in town.. They could Deannex all that land on the southside and that money could be used for the land purchase. Problem solved.You,ve have a place for the Hospital.

So... you think the city should de-annex property that they have run water/sewer lines to? I can't see where that remotely makes any sense. :rolleyes: Also, are you implying that the city would make money when they de-annex the land?

[countryboy]

So... you think the city should de-annex property that they have run water/sewer lines to? I can't see where that remotely makes any sense. :rolleyes: Also, are you implying that the city would make money when they de-annex the land?


I wasnt implying anything.Merely making an alternative suggestion.Actually by de-annexing they could possibly save money.And that money doesnt belong to the City it belongs to the tax payers.Or does it??. And If they were to save money it could be used to repair the old township or other failing infrastructure.. And seeing as there is a large tract of land on 1431 east that is already zoned commercial.Thats a place they put a Hospital. Also are the lines completed yet?Last i checked they were still digging.

[Peaches]

I guess I don't understand something, but it seems to me that Scott & White should have had a firmer contract before Marble Falls annexed the property and spent money laying infractucture for the hospital. I was of the understanding that the property had been donated for the hospital - which meant all the surrounding property values would skyrocket.

Remember all the legal tangles between the City of Llano and LMHS when this hospital plan was first announced? Honestly, I think LMHS officials jumped the gun on this land deal in order to keep some other entity from building a hospital in Marble Falls. Llano Memorial just didn't want to deal with new competition.

[Webmaster]

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[NightScenes]

Interesting write up in the paper this morning. So who do we believe, the developer or Scott & White? According to S.W., they will still build the hospital very close to the original site since the city has already spent $14 mil to run the water/sewer lines.

[bobbypuccio]

Brillant of our town to spend that money without anything in concrete, just brillant. This is what is wrong with our country, as you go up in city size the amount of money exponentially just gets bigger and bigger. How can some people have no problem with our officials wasting our money like that? There should have been some caveat that if it didn't happen someone would be held responsible for that bill, and it shouldn't be the tax payer. I couldn't imagine running a private business, investing 14 million of my own money, with the hopes that a deal would go through, at some point, some would call that moronic wouldn't they?

[countryboy]

Brillant of our town to spend that money without anything in concrete, just brillant. This is what is wrong with our country, as you go up in city size the amount of money exponentially just gets bigger and bigger. How can some people have no problem with our officials wasting our money like that? There should have been some caveat that if it didn't happen someone would be held responsible for that bill, and it shouldn't be the tax payer. I couldn't imagine running a private business, investing 14 million of my own money, with the hopes that a deal would go through, at some point, some would call that moronic wouldn't they?


I,m not positive but I could almost swear that there was some type of contigency that would hold the developer accountable. Would be nice to know if there is one..

Also. the 14mil wont be the last.. They still have to shell out 5.7 or more for the LMF subdivsion. And if the hospital goes across either hwy71 or 281.They have to go through annexation proceedings and public notices and hearings 1st.And the city had already claimed they were not going to be annexing anymore land.. Then you have the added cost of extending the lines across 71 or farther south on 281. I,d say at least 2 to 4 mil more there.Unless the hospital group pays for it.

[kb5ykj]

Folks let us not forget that the electrical system was upgraded along 281 headed south along with the water/waste water lines that are now under construction. I thought that the law was that the Developer had to do the build out into a subdivision. I guess that the mains are the cities responsibility? Seems that some kind of contract should have been made and signed. Seems that someone dropped the ball on this one.

[ohcuriousone]

Just remember this folly when you are looking at an election ballot on which the council is asking for you to extend their terms. Good grief, just think of all the good they could do with more years to help us. Vote early and take a car load of friends. We can't fix this but we can speak loudly about the future. :banghead:

[Caretaker]

Just remember this folly when you are looking at an election ballot on which the council is asking for you to extend their terms. Good grief, just think of all the good they could do with more years to help us. Vote early and take a car load of friends. We can't fix this but we can speak loudly about the future. :banghead:


Folks in this town wont remember this issue.Now you are right in that people need to keep in mind about term limit extensions. Charter says 6 year period.The last time they tried to extend them it was shot down.And for the same reason as Congress.They need term limits on the various Boards as well. Also the election last year only had 645 votes cast.Unless people see the #s what this cost them and it sticks in their heads they wont vote.And this year there is NO voting anyone out.3 council spots will expire.New faces will run.That is unless old members come back and win their positions again.

[K5JSW]

Well, I have not read the article yet ...
However, I made a bet VERY early on in this process that the hospital would not get built.

Instead it would likely be the golf course that wins out (and the neighborhood that goes with it).

Not a bad deal for them IF they can get the city to foot the bill.

One question IF the hospital goes in and IF was there enough excess water production with the existing water plant to supply them (remember enough excess water production)?

[Reapp]

You should read the article.

[countryboy]

Well, I have not read the article yet ...
However, I made a bet VERY early on in this process that the hospital would not get built.

Instead it would likely be the golf course that wins out (and the neighborhood that goes with it).

Not a bad deal for them IF they can get the city to foot the bill.

One question IF the hospital goes in and IF was there enough excess water production with the existing water plant to supply them (remember enough excess water production)?


Thats a good question. Keep in mind that they were OR are still planning on Building a New water treatment plant on the SS of the lake..Its listed on the CIP. Keep that in mind when it comes to the money.Add that too the LMF subdivision costs for services.(which FYI they dont have to connect to).Wheres the money going to come from??Then like I said before add on the costs of extending the lines across hwy 71 and more annexation proceedings/ costs if S&W buys land in that area.And we all know who will foot those bills.

[K5JSW]

You should read the article.

Thanks, I have and understand why S&W would change locations.

I cannot comment as I have had dealing with one of the parties involved.

I can just say it would not be a big surprise ... based on the past dealings. :banghead:

Hope they are able to:

A. Find a new location.
B. Find a reasonable price (to them) on the existing site.

[Reapp]

Thanks, I have and understand why S&W would change locations.

I cannot comment as I have had dealing with one of the parties involved.

I can just say it would not be a big surprise ... based on the past dealings. :banghead:

Hope they are able to:

A. Find a new location.
B. Find a reasonable price (to them) on the existing site.

Amen.

[Caretaker]

Brillant of our town to spend that money without anything in concrete, just brillant. This is what is wrong with our country, as you go up in city size the amount of money exponentially just gets bigger and bigger. How can some people have no problem with our officials wasting our money like that? There should have been some caveat that if it didn't happen someone would be held responsible for that bill, and it shouldn't be the tax payer. I couldn't imagine running a private business, investing 14 million of my own money, with the hopes that a deal would go through, at some point, some would call that moronic wouldn't they?


Well there may just be a caveat.. This is a quote from an older article about that very thing.. (We are pledging security for the investment that the city of MFs is making to extend the utilities.)(If the projects do not develop as we anticipate,the city would be able to cash in on that security and still get their investment back))

Hmm. What do you think about that??Whats the security??

[mdarling]

And who is "we", who pledged the security?

[gardener]

Not trying to stir up a hornet's nest, just wanting to know if S&W have a site with contracts yet. A little surprised at poor voter turnout considering the 28% tax hike. But it seems all the media coverage was aimed at property owners on Social Security...
:o

[gardener]

Has our council of REPRESENTATIVES approached Scoot and White with a plan for reduced cost for property owners paying for their utitilities?????